Enable Admins to manage the creation of new groups.
It is unbelievable to us that at Yammer's current level of product maturity, that our Admins cannot control the creation of new groups. This severely limits the platform as an effective collaborative platform.
Allowing everyone to create a group, or write a post, on Yammer are core to our product philosophy that everyone in an org should be empowered to communicate.
To vote for this please see --https://yammer.uservoice.com/forums/399627-yammer/suggestions/18966958-admins-to-approve-yammer-groups
This is a very simple easy fix. Just hide the "Create a group" link; let the company decide for themselves if they want to expose this link to everyone or only to the admin.
Björn Elwhagen commented
The fact that you have disabled the voting for this when you 7 times more comments than votes is just strange. Why would you restrict your users from giving you feedback on this in the form of voting? Obviously your users want this feature. Do you actually think that you know better than your users what is good for their organization?
Rob Christensen commented
The response that "we're unlikely ever to build this" is not acceptable.
Everyone agrees with the philosophy "that everyone in an org should be empowered to communicate", but that does not mean you have no governance around the product.
In an enterprise environment, basic governance to allow for better communication (as well as compliance and resource consumption (in O365 groups)) is a must. Sprawling, ungoverned groups do not allow for good communication, in fact it can cause the opposite where users are confused and overloaded of where and when to communicate. Providing a workflow and governance process around group creation would only setup Yammer to be more successful, not less.
We need to be able to manage group creation. My list of groups looks like is a mess!
Nick Hurst commented
There is a similar uservoice idea that can still be voted on:
Nick Hurst commented
Not only will Microsoft not listen to their customers, but they block us from even voting on this feature.
I thought the 'new Microsoft' was supposed to listen to their customers? This seems like the old Microsoft that we have all experienced throughout the years. Where they think they know what's best for millions of customers throughout countless industries and aren't interested in hearing otherwise.
We have empowered our users to communicate through Teams and Email, we need controls as Yammer would only have a limited use case in our organization. As it currently stands, without admin controls we just aren't going to allow anyone to use Yammer. Is that your goal?
Victoria D'Apice-Loh commented
This is a mistake, it should be up to the individual network as to how it should be managed. Our members blatantly disregard policy, messaging, standards, best practices, and create redundant groups, inappropriate group, unlist/hide inappropriate groups, and have clearly said "if I have the option I'm doing whatever I want"making it impossible to keep the network healthy and secure.
We need this functionnality, without it will be chaos....
In O365 Groups, we only authorise admins to create groups to ensure we have a proper naming convention, that owners are trained... We are a group of 50000 Employees.
In Yammer, we will setup the integration with O365 groups: by allowing anybody to create Yammer groups, the O365 groups created automatically will not follow our naming convention creating potentially thousands of O365 Groups, SP Sites, Exchange mailboxes automatically.
We need to have the possibility in Yammer to restrict group creation.
I dont think we are disagreeing with the product philosophy "that everyone in an org should be empowered to communicate" we are asking for an ability to manage how this is done. It's not really Microsoft's place to decide this. We restrict access to a number of different products based on the level of employee and how our business is structured.
Although, not entirely sure Yammer even use this platform (or listen to feedback) anymore
Joe Mallen commented
I don't believe that Microsoft should make decisions on how we empower our users. The creation of groups will simply get out of control and you will have several conversations on the same topic in different groups and impossible to manage. We will lose content and the organization will simply not be organized with groups created with no controls. Please reconsider allowing only admins to create groups. Just like we don't allow folks to create their own distro emails.
je serai ravi d'avoir cette fonctionnalité
Reeba Ninan commented
I think admins should be permitted to decide whether groups can be created by all or restricted to a set of users. We as a corporate would not want small private groups to be created which is not necessarily based on any business need. If the use is to make it open that anyone can create a group, that is fine. But there should be a way to control.
I also agree with everyone asking to be able to control Yammer group membership. We are in the process of preparing to migrate to Office 365 and it is concerning to us that we can not prevent users from creating groups. If users can create any group they want, including external groups, the admin oversight is going to be a nightmare.
I agree with some of the sentiment here. Microsoft is positioning Yammer as the outer loop and Teams as the inner loop but what is stopping users from creating private Yammer groups all the time and make it work like an inner loop. Now you have 2 tools where people are doing conversation privately. Solution to that is there should be a moderator who is checking private groups and either deleting them or opening it to public all the time which definitely is a not feasible for large companies.
I understand Microsoft has positioned itself to not work on this functionality but can you please clarify how should we address this problem ?
This is not suitable for enterprise environment. Any one can create any group without any control in corporate environment will be a nightmare....Please do the needful to enable Admin control or approval for group creation to use in corporate without any hassle...
The answer is a non-sense... what is the relation between the capacity to communicate in existing groups versus the capacity to create a new group of discussion ?
Yammer is a great tool but since you want to focus it in an enterprise way we (the enterprise) must have the ability to control what happend in our software.
As far as I know Microsoft is not part of the board yet and so not able to decide how we must work. Or just tells us to buy another product because this one will never fits our needs.
Peter ooms commented
The fundamental problem here is that the Yammer people think they know how every organisation should be run. It looks a lofty goal to have open conversations and unlimited rights and for some or maybe even many organisations this is a good idea. But as many have commented already this is not true for every organisation.
I'm responsible for out Yammer environment as part of Office 365. For our school we do not want students to create groups. That just simply doesn't go well as others have indicated.In my case I could live with an intermediate solution where specific groups of users could make a request to create a group if they have the need for it and as a moderator I could grant them the rights or not. This would serve both sides: freedom to create groups while retaining governance.