Admins to approve Yammer Groups.
Now users can make there own groups.
This is an absolute must... in an educational environment, we need to be able to eliminate duplicate group creation, facilitate collaboration, and keep all content monitored and organized
Same situation here, as we are preparing to roll out Yammer. The concern of not having some administrative control is putting a pause on this. Allowing for anyone just to randomly create a group (especially the redundant groups) with no governance around it is unacceptable.
If Yammer is for enterprise use, and in any enterprise environment, basic governance is needed to allow for better communication. Sprawling, ungoverned groups do not allow for good communication, in fact it can cause the opposite where users are confused and overloaded of where and when to communicate.
This could be a very simple easy fix. Provide a capability to hide the "Create a group" link; let the company decide if they want to expose this link to everyone or only to the admin. Quick wins for everyone and will make Yammer adoption more successful.
Definitely need this due to governance we administrate and apply to the organization.
Rob Christensen commented
We are preparing to roll out Yammer, not having some administrative control is making us pause. We would like to integrate with O365 Groups (which we restrict creation by admin group only), but either way -- allowing for anyone just to randomly create a group (O365 enabled or not) with no governance around it is unacceptable.
For eDiscovery, compliance and basic administration this is a requirement in today's enterprise -- saying it is not possible is not an acceptable answer.
Tim Mailley commented
In order to manage growth and prevent sprawl, we need to be able to manage the creation of groups in our org. We need to be able to guide users into following conventions for administration and compliance reasons.
Tim Nagels commented
That's a basic management requirement certainly if you don't have any other governance/lifecycle tools for the groups.
I've just implemented this
Official MS doco that states Yammer group created would be locked down
But in my testing, this is false. Normal user can still create a Yammer Group
What is going on?!
Nick Hurst commented
This is a requirement for us to enable Yammer in our organization. Especially with how the capabilities of Teams has grown, Yammer would only have a limited use case in our organization. We need the same admin controls we have for Teams with Yammer in order to encourage our employees to use the 'right' tool.
This is a must have! While we want to encourage communications we don't want a swamp of random groups.
We're a large enterprise and we already restrict the creation of Office 365 groups. We need to ensure that Yammer groups are approved and created with an O365 group backend instead of allowing the users to create one without it.
This would be a great tool to education as learners are creating inappropriate groups, to have a tool that allows you to monitor group creation would be very useful to admin and also encourage learners to think if the group is a valid group that would aid their learning.
Office 365 allows users to control Office 365 group creation and restrict external access. However Yammer allows: -
- Users to create any groups they want without any ability to audit it
- User to create external groups (unless you start configuring ETR settings)
Worse Yammer actually undermines the Office 365 controls as users can create Office 365 groups by a back door. They simply:-
- Create a group
- Assign an account with Group creation rights to be an admin
- Then update the group (e.g. set it from public to private and back)
.... you get an Office 365 group without ever having the "rights" to create one!
At the moment my organisation almost certainly won't implement Yammer because of these security loopholes.
You'd like to think that professionals would select meaningful group names, but you'd be wrong. Our archiving team is pulling their hair out, anticipating having to review the content in Yammer groups one day. PLEASE consider offering a dashboard to request a group - which allows an admin to create it? This would eliminate the fuss over "plain" Yammer groups vs. O365 integrated Yammer groups. We can't control it unless you help us.
Office 365 Japan Support Team commented
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Enable the control of Yammer group creation.
■Description_JP (内容):Office 365 グループが自動作成されるので、Yammer のグループ作成についてユーザーに権限を付与して管理できるようにするか、あるいは、制限を設けていただきたい。
When I create Yammer's group, Office 365 group is created automatically. Therefore, I hope that I will be able to control its creation either by granting the rights to users or by setting a limit to access to group.
This feature is a must have.
Just imagine a fraction of our 6,000+ employees and 20,000+ students creating groups or posting to "all company" without limitations.
Just enabled Yammer at our school and will probably have to disable it before too long because Microsoft doesn't believe we have a responsibility to manage our students communication. We would like to use Yammer as a platform for teaching proper social network behavior, but if you can't monitor, you can't teach, so from an educational perspective, it just becomes a distraction and a tool for bullying.
Having the ability to limit group formation to Teachers and administrators would allow us to have a policy of an adult in every group to monitor civility.
Even this forum has that ability. Just look at the front page:
"For now, we've got moderation turned on - we'll decide whether to stick with that after a few weeks. Thanks!"
That's basically what we want to do.
Sean McHugh commented
Just do this ... almost all large enterprises want this. Refusal to acknowledge is just ridiculous.
Waqas Faiq commented
All users other than admins should be restricted to create groups in Yammer.
Or a setting per group type. I.e have a moderation setting for each type so that for instance public groups can be created by everybody, but public unlisted, private and so on could be moderated before creation.